It is pouring with rain vs It is pouring (2025)

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baab

Senior Member

Vietnamese

  • Aug 24, 2013
  • #1

1. It is pouring with rain.
2. It is pouring.

Are both sentence correct and do they have the same meaning?

Thanks.

  • e2efour

    Senior Member

    England (aged 79)

    UK English

    • Aug 24, 2013
    • #2

    They both mean the same and are both possible.
    I would say It's pouring down rather than It's pouring.

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    Dexta

    Senior Member

    English (British and Australian)

    • Aug 24, 2013
    • #3

    I agree with e2e4, they mean the same, but I have not really heard 'with rain' added to 'it's pouring'. To me that would be like saying 'It's blowing a gale with wind' which sounds a bit silly. The rain is understood.

    DW

    Banned

    Polish

    • Aug 24, 2013
    • #4

    Well, "it's pouring" is OK and means "it's raining hard". As for "it's pouring with rain", it's not how we would express this in AmE, since in AmE it is: "it's pouring rain".

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    baab

    Senior Member

    Vietnamese

    • Aug 24, 2013
    • #5

    Thank you, all, for helpful replies.
    "It is pouring with rain" is a sentence is my TOEIC book and "It is pouring" is my version. I am surprised that the first sentence is not popular.

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    Dexta

    Senior Member

    English (British and Australian)

    • Aug 24, 2013
    • #6

    You are very welcome baab. Language is a living and dynamic and peculiar thing. Sometimes, the books are not always the most accurate or reliable way of learning. That is why this website is here!

    Good luck in your studies and I would say that you already have a more natural flair for English than any book could teach you if your instinct told you that the book was not really indicative of the more popular usage in this situation.

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    EdisonBhola

    Senior Member

    Korean

    • May 24, 2024
    • #7

    DW said:

    Well, "it's pouring" is OK and means "it's raining hard". As for "it's pouring with rain", it's not how we would express this in AmE, since in AmE it is: "it's pouring rain".

    Is it really okay to say "it is pouring rain"? Isn't "rain" redundant there?

    I think "it is pouring" already means "it is raining heavily".

    CaptainZero

    Senior Member

    Australia

    English

    • May 24, 2024
    • #9

    EdisonBhola said:

    Is it really okay to say "it is pouring rain"?

    For some AmE speakers, yes, apparently (see post #4).

    For AusE speakers...

    "It's pouring" / "It's pouring with rain" / "It's pouring down" are all natural, idiomatic, and commonly used.

    "It's bucketing down" and "It's pelting" / "It's pelting down" likewise.

    "It's teeming" / "It's teeming with rain" are probably less commonly used, but still hold a place.

    "It's raining cats and dogs" is a little tired and clichéd these days, I feel, but well-known and very likely still used.

    And, "It's hailing taxis" might add a little levity. It is pouring with rain vs It is pouring (6)

    kentix

    Senior Member

    English - U.S.

    • May 24, 2024
    • #10

    I haven't heard an American say "It's pouring with rain" but I've heard plenty say "It's pouring rain".

    It might be something you say to introduce the context. Say you're on a phone call with someone hundreds of miles away. You might say "it's pouring rain" here to make the context clear that you're talking about weather. You could say "it's pouring here" but pouring doesn't always refer to weather so by adding rain you make the context crystal clear right away.

    Roxxxannne

    Senior Member

    American English (New England and NYC)

    • May 24, 2024
    • #11

    Even though one could consider it redundant, it's definitely okay to say "It's pouring rain" in AmE, since many, many people use that idiomatic expression.

    kentix

    Senior Member

    English - U.S.

    • May 25, 2024
    • #12

    We also say "it's pouring out." meaning outside. It's true that it doesn't often pour inside but we still say that.

    The school has an indoor cafeteria in case of inclement weather but even if it's pouring out, it's mostly empty. We'll picnic in the halls and in empty classrooms before we'll eat in the cafeteria.

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    Lydia Yu

    New Member

    Chinese

    • May 25, 2024
    • #13

    Yes, both sentences are correct, but they have slightly different meanings.

    1. "It is pouring with rain." - This sentence specifically emphasizes that it is raining very heavily, with "pouring with rain" indicating a strong downpour.

    2. "It is pouring." - This sentence is less specific and can be used in two different contexts:
    - It can mean that it is raining heavily, similar to the first sentence.
    - Alternatively, it can be used in a non-weather context to mean that something is coming down in large quantities, like "It is pouring out of the sky" could refer to rain or any other substance.

    So while both sentences can be used to describe heavy rain, the first one is more specific to that context, while the second one can be used more broadly.

    ewie

    Senior Member

    Manchester

    English English

    • May 25, 2024
    • #14

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    Lydia Yu

    New Member

    Chinese

    • May 25, 2024
    • #15

    ewie said:

    For example, Lydia ... ? It is pouring with rain vs It is pouring (12)

    Haha!Sorry,actually I don’t know.🥹

    CaptainZero

    Senior Member

    Australia

    English

    • May 25, 2024
    • #16

    Anyway, about the difference between It's pouring and It's pouring with rain... with rain adds clarity and fullness to the statement, as I see it. The rain is pouring down — It's pouring with rain: we know it's rain that's pouring, but this is a stronger and clearer way to express the idea than simply saying It's pouring.

    heypresto

    Senior Member

    South East England

    English - England

    • May 25, 2024
    • #17

    It is pouring with rain vs It is pouring (15) I think we only say 'it's pouring' when the old man is snoring.

    bennymix

    Senior Member

    Now, Ontario, Canada. California; Princeton, NJ.

    English (American).

    • May 26, 2024
    • #18

    CaptainZero said:

    Anyway, about the difference between It's pouring and It's pouring with rain... with rain adds clarity and fullness to the statement, as I see it. The rain is pouring down — It's pouring with rain: we know it's rain that's pouring, but this is a stronger and clearer way to express the idea than simply saying It's pouring.

    Have you ever heard anyone (or yourself) say, "It's pouring with rain"? I haven't in US or Canada.

    Wordy McWordface

    Senior Member

    SSBE (Standard Southern British English)

    • May 26, 2024
    • #19

    Yes. I often say "It's pouring with rain" and I often hear it. This is a common and very standard expression in BrE. See #8, for example.

    Before I came across this thread, I did not realise that the version without "with" existed.

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    CaptainZero

    Senior Member

    Australia

    English

    • May 26, 2024
    • #20

    bennymix said:

    Have you ever heard anyone (or yourself) say, "It's pouring with rain"? I haven't in US or Canada.

    CaptainZero said:

    For AusE speakers...

    "It's pouring" / "It's pouring with rain" / "It's pouring down" are all natural, idiomatic, and commonly used.

    (Bolding added It is pouring with rain vs It is pouring (19))

    Roxxxannne

    Senior Member

    American English (New England and NYC)

    • May 26, 2024
    • #21

    I've heard it's pouring rain in the US but not it's pouring with rain, although I've heard and use other expressions to emphasize how heavily the rain is coming down.

    CaptainZero

    Senior Member

    Australia

    English

    • May 26, 2024
    • #22

    Roxxxannne said:

    I've heard and use other expressions to emphasize how heavily the rain is coming down.

    Yes. In my version of English at least one such expression is the rather crude It's (absolutely) pissing down!

    heypresto

    Senior Member

    South East England

    English - England

    • May 27, 2024
    • #23

    It is pouring with rain vs It is pouring (23) That's extremely common here too.

    Another version is 'It's chucking it down'.

    And I vaguely remember something involving 'stair rods', but I'm not sure exactly how the expression goes.

    kentix

    Senior Member

    English - U.S.

    • May 27, 2024
    • #24

    I don't ever hear bucket as a verb but I do hear it as a noun.

    - The rain is coming down in buckets.

    heypresto

    Senior Member

    South East England

    English - England

    • May 27, 2024
    • #25

    CaptainZero said:

    It's (absolutely) pissing down!

    Just curious - is this heard in the US?

    kentix

    Senior Member

    English - U.S.

    • May 27, 2024
    • #26

    Not really, no. (At least not to any great degree.)

    Here's the ngram:

    It is pouring with rain vs It is pouring (27)

    But then I got to thinking that pissing down rain might be more likely in American English. Here's the ngram for that. It definitely looks different.

    It is pouring with rain vs It is pouring (28)

    Here's the frequency relative to each other:

    Google Books Ngram Viewer

    It is pouring with rain vs It is pouring (29)

    It seems to be a lot more heavily favored in the UK.

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    CaptainZero

    Senior Member

    Australia

    English

    • May 27, 2024
    • #27

    Your first ngram there is for "pissing rain", not "pissing down"... We'd be very unlikely to say "It's pissing rain" in AusE, but very likely to say "It's pissing down" or "It's pissing down rain".

    kentix

    Senior Member

    English - U.S.

    • May 27, 2024
    • #28

    Yeah, I made a little mistake there. I thought I'd read "pissing rain" earlier in the thread, but I guess I didn't. Still, it got the most results on the ngram so somebody must be saying it.

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    RM1(SS)

    Senior Member

    Connecticut

    English - US (Midwest)

    • May 27, 2024
    • #29

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